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Phase one of Elon's DOGE's Social Security actions is going to be like this,
*Layoffs. Gut the staff so workload can't be processed so new beneficiaries, except maybe retirees, won't get benefits, appeals wont's be processed, etc
*Fraud claim: Find any and every error and clerical error, overpayment, minor, harmless infractions, like bank account balances being over the asset limit for a few days for SSI disabled while their bills are processed, etc, even if not the fault of the beneficiary, and claim fraud and take program banishment, repayment and criminal action against the beneficiary.
*AI Computer photo/social media crosschecking, Run scans on social media to find disabled people doing normal things and claim they are able to do things they have said they are not, and run them up the flagpole for fraud
*Appeals: Gut the administrative law judges so beneficiaries who are able to appeal, can't get their appeals processed.
*Media: Claim high fraud and abuse, claim lower numbers of beneficiaries, etc and media will eat it up without evidence #SocialSecurity #Doge #USPol #SSA
Mark my words/
2/ In the mid-aughts, I actually represented someone during a formal conference appeal who had their SSI disability cutoff and received a large overpayment bill from Social Security because their private, elderly landlord only went to the bank and deposited rent checks every few months.
Every so often, SSA does an asset review, bank accounts, cash on hand, etc, of persons receiving SSI.
Her rent payments weren't being withdrawn from her bank account even though she was writing the checks, so, several times per year, she had more cash in her checking account that showed up on her statements she submitted during the asset review than the law permitted her to have at one time.
This had other repercussions, like her Medicaid, which had eligibility attached to her SSI eligibility, being affected, also.
It was finally resolved but it was a big headache that lasted well over a year.
I can see Elon and his #doge boys running computer crosschecking programs, crosschecking bank records, etc, and kicking people off without any due process or understanding and wrecking their lives.
3/ Top Social Security official exits after clash with Musk’s DOGE over sensitive data demand #USPol
archive https://archive.ph/UD0Sz for https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/17/doge-social-security-musk/
4/ Musk Ally At GSA Demands Admin/Root Access to System That Lets Government Text the Public
404 Media, "Notify.gov contains not just the phone numbers of everyday people but also information about whether they participate in government programs such as Medicaid, which is based on a person's financial situation. In recent days, Musk has become obsessed with the idea of "fraud" in #Medicaid, #Medicare, and #SocialSecurity, and in identifying those he suspects are committing fraud."
A worker resigned in protest rather than giving Thomas Shedd access to Notify.gov, which they said would allow him to see "all personally identifiable information moving through the Notify system, including phone numbers," 404 Media has learned.
Shedd is a former Tesla engineer who now runs Technology Transformation Services (TTS), a group of coders and software engineers within the GSA, who is closely allied with Elon #Musk and #DOGE. #USPol
5/ New: DOGE cancel leases and close Columbus, #Ohio Social Security office and the bankruptcy clerks office.
#SocialSecurity
DOGE website shows two Columbus leases canceled
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/doge-website-shows-two-columbus-leases-canceled
6/ Although the Social Security Admin has privacy notices posted throughout, this morning I got a pop-up when I logged in to the system. These policies aren't new. The pop-up, where I got it, and I've been into the system thousands of times both personal and as a beneficiary representative, is new, esp where it popped up at after I logged into the secure part of the website.
There may be a gut DOGE reaction when people, esp the media, starts reporting about them. They aren't new policies.
"We will disclose information under this routine use only in situations in which SSA may enter into a contractual or similar agreement with a third party to assist in accomplishing an Agency function relating to this system of records."
The full pop-up, "Sections 205 and 233 of the Social Security Act, as amended, allow us to collect this information.
Furnishing us this information is voluntary. However, failing to provide all or part of the information may affect the accuracy of your earnings record.
We will use the information you provide to correct your earnings record.
We may also share your information for the following purposes, called routine uses:
To employers or former employers, including State Social Security administrators, for correcting and reconstructing State employee earnings records and for Social security purposes; and
To contractors and other Federal agencies, as necessary, for the purpose of assisting the Social Security Administration (SSA) in the efficient administration of its programs.
We will disclose information under this routine use only in situations in which SSA may enter into a contractual or similar agreement with a third party to assist in accomplishing an Agency function relating to this system of records.
In addition, we may share this information in accordance with the Privacy Act and other Federal laws. For example, where authorized, we may use and disclose this information in computer matching programs, in which our records are compared with other records to establish or verify a person’s eligibility for Federal benefit programs and for repayment of incorrect or delinquent debts under these programs."
7/ Social Security is the latest front in Trump and Musk’s attack on trust in government
The MSNBC columnist linked to a February 17 article by Wired's David Gilbert, who debunked the Musk/DOGE claims about Social Security payments and Americans who are 150.
8/ Musk hints at cutting $500 billion from 'entitlements' like #SocialSecurity and #Medicare during a CPAC interview.
https://www.alternet.org/musk-cutting-social-security/ #Doge
Video of interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3tpSkPc_s
I hate this thread.
9/ Statement from the Musk-appointed head of SSA celebrating the deletion of research grants studying the financial security of the older adults and the disabled. https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v80n1/index.html #SocialSecurity #USPol
About the program:
A Look Back at the Last Decade of the Retirement Research Consortium and Disability Research Consortium (publiched Feb 2020)
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v80n1/v80n1p1.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20250202092306/https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v80n1/v80n1p1.html
@paul@oldfriends.live10/ Anxiety Mounts Among Social Security Recipients as DOGE Troops Settle In
Elon Musk’s team has descended on an already understaffed Social Security Administration, which now faces further workforce cuts and closures of vital local offices. The consequences could be significant for millions of the most vulnerable Americans.
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-social-security-elon-musk-trump-closures-benefits
11/ Although Social Security emails had icons and links to its social media pages, none I have received in the past encouraged posting on social media, esp with a hashtag. I have every email going back over a decade, none encouraged posting on social media, nor with a hash tag.
The latest email includes a text prompt to, "follow SSA OIG on Facebook, X, and LinkedIn to stay up to date on the latest scam tactics. Repost #SlamtheScam information on social media to keep your friends and family safe."
I'm not saying this is bad just that I noticed it.
12/: New, in a meeting today, Social Security Commissioner seeks plans for a 50 percent reduction in staff, a mass firing that could affect tens of thousands of employees across the country, affecting the already backlogged #SSA system
Also, Social Security Administration warns employees through email of "massive reorganizations.," threatens "involuntary" reassignments and offers a claimed "Voluntary Separation Incentive Payments"
#SocialSecurity #Doge #USPol #SSA .
https://www.lawdork.com/p/social-security-admin-restructuring-email
13/ 'Bloodbath': Social Security Administration Begins Mass Firings
What is being described as a "total annihilation" of SSA, say critics, proves that Trump's promises to protect Social Security "are a sham."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/social-security-administration-layoffs
@MaryAustinBooks writes, "They can't get rid of #SocialSecurity legislatively so they are just breaking the system that delivers benefits."
14 / Social Security offices in 'chaos' as DOGE cripples services
"And this week, the long-struggling disability benefits system came under threat as backlogged state offices that review claims were told there would be no more overtime or hiring."
The report adds that some offices are unable to pay phone bills due to a DOGE freeze on credit cards, and that other offices are having to absorb the call volume causing massive delays in processing retirement claims as calls go unanswered." #SocialSecurity #doge
As reported elsewhere in this thread, doge has already started closing local offices
15/ FALSE ALERT: FYI, if you come across this story, "Social Security will suspend payments for 90 days," Microsoft , Edge and MSN is feeding it out in Edge Web browsers. It won't take time for people to see it, spread it and start panicking. The headline is false.
MSN is feeding some third-party website site, in what appears to be AI garbage in the Edge start page "news" sections.
The article rehashes others who say the actual damage being done could slow or cause the payment system to collapse but then frames it as "The combination of reduced staffing and increased demands could result in a 90-day suspension of Social Security payments."
Even that is conjecture.
This is false. SSA isn't pausing payments.
The article is: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/social-security-will-suspend-payments-for-90-days/ar-AA1AkFhE
16/ To add a little petty to this thread,
new internet restrictions at the #SSA have cut off access to WIRED, along with other “general #news” websites like The Washington Post and The New York Times, including sites that have been on the forefront of reporting about Elon Musk's #doge.
DOGE has gone full North Korea and China.
" #SocialSecurity Workers Aren’t Allowed to Read This Story"
https://www.wired.com/story/social-security-workers-arent-allowed-to-read-this-story/
17/ This is moving faster than I thought. Musk and DOGE are already doing item one on the list in the 1st post in this thread, destabilizing SSA with staff cuts and closing offices.
Now, on to item two. "Elon Musk's so-called DOGE group has been granted access to sensitive income data from the Department of Health and Human Services"
"DOGE has recently been trying to check personal tax records against federal benefits, grants and student loans, aiming to link together traditionally separated government systems" #SocialSecurity #USPol
Elon Musk's team reportedly given access to 'sensitive income data' https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-access-income-data/
18/ Social Security to begin withholding 100% of benefits again for agency fault overpayments as Trump reinstates plan to recover 100% of overpayments, until the overpayment is made up
#SocialSecurity is bringing back a controversial plan to fix its mistakes by withholding people's benefits. The agency had just sought 10% of funds it accidentally overpaid. Now it wants 100% repaid.
That's a reversal of a change to withhold only 10% of a recipient's benefits in event of an overpayment to reduce "financial hardship on people with overpayments. In the past, people lost their homes as benefits were cut off to make up an overpayment. #USPol #SSA .
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/08/social-security-overpayments-march-2025/82049805007/
19/ JFC moment. A short read of a court filing regarding #SocialSecurity data and doge and the delicate nature of the data, how the current commissioner got put in and a lot of bells and whistles. #USPol
It's been reported on in the press, but read this short, double spaced court filing.
Ex-Social Security official describes ‘significant’ risk of sensitive data going to wrong hands under DOGE, handled based on three myths.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.577321/gov.uscourts.mdd.577321.22.10.pdf
h/t @tiamat271
20/ DOGE and Social Security declared a living man dead, robbed his bank account to claw back "erroneous" payments because he was dead — Man is still waiting on it to be fixed because of short staffing.
I think another lesson here is, if you collect Social Security, move your deposit to another account as soon as possible.
From the article:
Johnson’s strange trip through the netherworld began in February, when a letter from his bank arrived addressed to his wife, Pam.
“We recently received notification of LEONARD A. JOHNSON’s passing,” it began. “We offer our sincerest condolences …”
At first she figured it was a scam — her husband, after all, was sitting right there. But then the bank got to the point.
“We know this is a difficult time, and we’re here to help,” the bank wrote.
“We received a request from Social Security Administration to return benefits paid to LEONARD A. JOHNSON’s account after their passing.”
“There’s nothing you need to do — we’ve deducted the funds from LEONARD A. JOHNSON’s account.”
Here’s a ‘dead’ person on Social Security in Seattle, with plenty to say
21/ New internal Social Security Administration (SSA) memo, sent on March 13, details Trump DOGE's plan to sabotage the Social Security Administration, changes "that would debilitate the agency, cause significant processing delays, and prevent many Americans from applying for or receiving benefits" #SocialSecurity
The changes would increase field office traffic, longer call wait times, and delayed processed, as well as disproportionatly impact on vulnerable populations
A DOGE workaround of the new policy means these claims will never be approved without using ID-Proof internet or making an in-person visit.
https://popular.info/p/exclusive-memo-details-trump-plan
I hate this feck'n thread but it must continue. The policy says they fear "congressional scrutiny" so make your voices heard.
22/ Acting Social Security head consults with Justice Dept. on whether to close agency — Leland Dudek says he will ‘terminate access by all SSA employees’ to IT systems: report
Acting commissioner says it should shut down Social Security Administration.
Bloomberg News reported, “As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems,” the report quoted Dudek as saying.
“Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency,” Dudek said, according to the report.
It's worthy to note, the entire agency runs via an "IT system" setup.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-the-social-security-administration-temporarily-shutting-down-acting-commissioner-says-it-should-following-doge-related-court-order-d8822dc1 #SocialSecurity
23/ Trump's billionaire Commerce Secretary tells All-In in DC! podcast,
"Let's say Social Security didn't send out their checks this month. My mother-in-law, who's 94, she wouldn't call and complain. She just wouldn't. She'd think something got messed up and she'll get it next month," and then says that if you're the type who *would* whine loudly about such a thing, that's an indicator of being a fraudster." #SSA #SocialSecurity
This clip is not taken out of context, either.
Full podcast, All-In in DC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=182ckTL2KBA&ab_channel=All-InPodcast!
24/ This evening, the Acting Commissioner of #SocialSecurity posted that he is not shutting SSA down due to the court ordering DOGE to stay away from the private records of nearly every American alive.
https://blog.ssa.gov/statement-from-acting-commissioner-dudek-about-temporary-restraining-order/
25/ Oklahoma City mans #SocialSecurity benefits terminated without warning or explanation.
Turns out, because he was born on a U.S. Army base in Germany, where his father was stationed for active duty, it was deduced that #DOGE and #SSA targeted him erroneously for immigration, even though he is a US citizen by birth.
26/ Those phone service disruptions from part 21 of this thread from March 21, Social Security is rushing the phone service cuts at White House request. The public phone disconnect is expected to take 2 weeks to complete.
The changes would increase field office traffic, and will disproportionately impact on vulnerable populations, the disabled, rural and the elderly.
My local Social Security office is over 45 miles away. 60 miles if we want to use "good," safe roads.
Add to the chaos the fact that #doge is shutting down offices, it is a storm waiting to happen. #SSA #SocialSecurity #USPol .
Again. Trump is destroying the nation from the inside, from the Oval Office, and we have not a sing li e defense?
We have not a single defense.
@paul I wonder if AI came cross the comments made by a prior SSA head who said he expects the agency to begin missing payments around April due to trump/DOGE gumming up the works. The guy was clear the missing payments wouldn’t be an intentional action, just a byproduct of the chaos and short-staffing. I hate AI.
@tiamat271 I think it has gobbled up a bunch of talk about the entire situation and spit this garbage out. But people will freak out on the headline alone.
@paul Easier said than done. Due to government in-efficiency, all those gov depts tend to use different, incompatible systems. Doing a check will be harder than they think.
@hallvors The problem with Social Security is labor. Every change in resources/assets of a recipient requires input by a human and they get so backlogged. Beneficiaries report changes and it just sits. Eventually it gets added and an overpayment occurs. This is esp true for the working disabled. Then, all of a sudden, your check is gone until months worth of overpayments are paid back.
Over my career, I've processed dozens of these overpayment appeals. Under a normal regime it is brutal. Worse under a GOP admin vs DEM. Now, who knows how routine appeals will be processed.
Cruelty is a feature with this admin
@paul As usual, cruelty is the point...
@paul Part of the #DogeCrime is that his money was not instantly replaced in his account.
Could and will happen to any of us.
@paul I also hate this thread, but thank you for documenting what is happening
@paul He doesn’t seem very proactive.
@paul
It should come as no surprise that the mother-in-law of a billionaire would not complain about missing a Social Security check.
Man, post-election the Republicans who are not in Congress have begun to just openly acknowledge that their constituency is only millionaires and billionaires.
@paul this is because he received two sternly worded letters from the judge telling him to either stop intentionally misinterpreting the court order or else admit he was lying in court. What a POS.
@paul Expect more of this... 
@paul Do we believe this statement?
I don’t
Yeah, because obviously, if anyone who complains is a woke parasite.
That’s what the super rich mean by that. Woke parasites or people who fight for their rights that’s how they that’s what they call us in their relentless campaign to subjugate or kill us. That’s the plan they have subjugation or death.
@paul They also spread fake stories about dead people voting, disproven when the living “dead” person was interviewed by the news media too.
Or maybe Mitch McConnell has been in charge of the party so long that Republicans can no longer tell the living from the dead.
@paul Have you read this? Very alarming.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.577321/gov.uscourts.mdd.577321.22.10.pdf